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    ... The Hangin' Song in "Out West"?

    "OOOOhhh, Lord loves a hangin', that's why he give us necks
    It tightens up our vocal chords, and loosens up our pecs.
    So if you are a horse thief and guilty to the bone,
    Go ahead and blame a friend and you won't hang alone!

    It may be hard to swaller, but you'll be three feet taller,
    And find new ways to entertain your friends.
    You say you are a villian, but can't abide by killin',
    Go ahead and steal yourself a horse.

    Two three eleven or five seven [take it, boys].
    I'm a pickin' and I'm a swingin'!
    I'm ignorant, and I'm ugly!
    That you are, boys.

    OOOOhhh, The Lord loves a hangin', and so do we by heck!
    So go and get a lasso and decorate your neck!
    Oh we is awful ignorant and uglier than sin,
    so go ahead and cut us down... And hang us all again!

    Hangin', that is. Swing a spell."

    ... Ren's crazy speech in "Space Madness"?

    "...I'll just lie back and think pleasant thoughts.
    Chicken pot pie... Chocolate covered RAIsins...
    Glazed Hammmmm... They think I'm crazy... But I
    know better... It is not I who am crazy... It is
    I who am MAD!... Didn't you hear 'em? Didn't you
    see the crowds?!! Oh my beloved ice cream bar...
    How I love to lick your creamy center... eeyaaarghruch...
    eeyaarghrunch... eeyaarghrunch... And your oh-so-nutty
    chocolate covering... You're not like the others...
    You like the same things I do... Wax paper...
    Boiled football leather... Dog breath... WE'RE NOT
    HITCHIKING ANYMORE... WE'RE RIDING...

    (Stimpy: "Stop it. You're talking crazy")

    Oh no... I know what you want... You coveteth my ice
    cream bar!

    (Stimpy: "Come on now")

    No you don't! You can't take it from me now!
    I've had this ice cream bar since I was a child...
    People... Always trying to take it from me... Why don't they
    leave me ALONE?!!!

    (Stimpy: "Easy now...")

    Back off man!!!... Don't make me use this... One
    step closer, I'm warning ya... Don't make me use it!
    Now you've done it! You... forced me to use it!!!...

7. What is the meaning behind or origin of...

    [ Much of the items that seem like obscure or trivial humor are in
    fact non sequiturs. There's no meaning. They're just there for the
    hell of it. ]

    ... The Croco-stimpy Bus? [ "Untamed World" ]

    Non sequitur.

    ... "We're not hitchiking anymore! We're riding!" [ "Space Madness" ]

    From [e-mail]:
    This is apparently from the movie "Centurion." The line was
    delivered by Kirk Douglas (see below).

    ... The face that rises and sets over Hollywood during "Stimpy's Big
    Day?"

    From [e-mail]:
    The face is apparently Kirk Douglas. According to John K.,
    Kirk Douglas was the [partial?] inspiration for Ren.

    ... The various narrations in the "Happy Happy Joy Joy" song?

    "I'll teach your grandmother to suck eggs"
    This aparently paraphrases an old saying. There are many film and
    TV uses of this phrase. It means (roughly) to teach someone
    what they already know. Furthermore, "to suck eggs" is aparently
    a euphamism for nosing into other people's business.

    From [e-mail]:
    "The little critters of nature -- They don't know that they're ugly."
    This is a line from the film "Summer Magic" starring Berl Ives and
    Hayley Mills.

    ... Ren's various insane ravings?

    So far Ren has been portrayed as being outright insane in
    at least two cartoons (his general level of sanity is
    as questionable as any cartoon character's, of course,
    but we're talking serious psychosis here): "In The Army"
    after he's done peeling H-bombs, and in "Space Madness".
    During both of these intervals Ren gives speeches that
    are as nutty as a fruitcake. Talking about running from
    marmosets, boiled football leather, things like that.
    As far as the net knows (at the moment), these are simply things
    that the writer(s) thought were silly enough for a raving looney
    to think sensible.

8. Is it "No sir, I _DON'T_ like it", or "No sir, I _DIDN'T_
   like it"?

Both. "Don't" is heard in "Stimpy's Big Day/The Big Shot,"
and "didn't" is heard in "Fire Dogs," and "Marooned."
In Season II we have a new variation in "Out West:" "WELL sir,
I don't like it."

9. Does anyone have a list of episodes?

It is posted at the same time as this FAQ list.

10. What is the title of the one that spoofs "Wild Kingdom"?

This is a point of controversy. The titles read "A Cartoon /
Written by Jim Smith & John K. / Storyboards by Jim Smith /
Directed by John K. / Untamed World".

Some believe it is titled simply "Untamed World" under the theory that
the first thing you see doesn't have to be the title. It would
have been awkward to put the credits after "Untamed World" because
of how the action goes. It would have been similarly awkward to
start off with "Written by". "A Cartoon" was thus simply used to
intro the credits.

Some believe that since "A Cartoon" is capitalized and appears
by itself that it must be a title, and call it "A Cartoon"
or "A Cartoon: Untamed World".

Official word from Spumco has reached the author (from
[e-mail]) that Spumco folk internally refered to it as
"Nature Show".

11. Does Nickelodeon censor R&S?

The opening titles contain scenes from "Big House Blues" and point to the
possibility that Nickelodeon has cut scenes from the show.  In particular,
Nick's rendering of BHB does NOT show the scene where Ren is 'drinking from
the porcelain bus'.  Additionally, although Nick originally showed the entire
"Magic Nose Goblins" ending, they have since then started doing a quick fade
as the scene panned over the 'field of green'.  There are other places in the
series where editing may have taken place. In particular, in "Untamed World",
there is a blackout, then a wipe to the next scene.  Nowhere else does this
take place.

From [e-mail]:
There were a few incidences in "Big House Blues."  In one scene, the dog-
catcher asks R&S if they like to have fun; R&S agree. "Well go ahead, have
fun!" [then, in the missing footage, the dogcatcher turns his back, and
says in a feminine voice, "See if I care."] [If you freeze frame it,
you can see the dogcatcher turn around and put his hands on his hips in
a rather feminine stance. Just a brief glance.] Also, during the sleep
sequence, Ren ends up kissing Stimpy, then wakes up, screams, says something
about having to "clean himself," and goes to toilet, drinking out of it (not
vomiting into it). Or maybe it's eating, who can say.

From [e-mail]:
Like that other Jeff said, Ren dreams he's having a romantic
encounter and ends up kissing Stimpy, at which point he instantly
wakes up wide-eyed and dashes over to the PHENOMENALLY rusty and
filthy prison toilet, takes a loooong drink to wash his mouth out (!),
glares back and Stimpy and shouts, "HAVE YOU *NO* SENSE OF PERSONAL
HYGIENE???"

12. What about the music?

Apart from a few selections, there is not a single piece of original music
in the whole show. Instead, R&S quotes extensively from the classical
repertoire, as well as 50's style TV themes and takes. Space prohibits
a complete listing here.

From [e-mail]:
John K apparently wrote "The Muddy Mudskipper Show" theme, and the
[words to the (?)] "Happy Happy Joy Joy" song.

From [e-mail]:
Chris Reccardi wrote the [music to the (?)] HHJJ song. He has done work
for Tiny Toon Adventures, among other things.

From [e-mail]:
The closing theme is not an original composition. It's a version of the
Howlin' Wolf (Chester Burnett) classic blues "Killing Floor". No doubt.
In fact, it's VERY similar to the arrangement on the Howlin' Wolf Chess
Box.

13. Where can I get R&S...

    ... videos?

    Unfortunately, there is no way to obtain R&S except to tape it.
    Previous announcements that at least BHB was available on "Tournee of
    Animation" tapes were in error.

    ... GIFs?

    From [e-mail]:
    Check freedom.nmsu.edu:pub;/ren-and-stimpy (I think).

    ... sounds?

    From [e-mail]:
    ab20 was closed back in May.  The entire archives have been shuttled
    to wuarchive.wustl.edu and nic.funet.fi.  The Ren & Stimpy sounds are
    part of the Amiga archives.  (wuarchive has done some shuffling of the
    ab20 files, and no longer has a mirror of the old site.  The sounds may
    have been moved to another directory.)

    From [e-mail]:
    We can rightly claim to be the first to have contributed digital
    samplings of Ren & Stimpy audio to INet and several other networks.
    (Well, OK, we are 98% sure of it; and we would like to know of any
    other uploads, both earlier and later.) They originally appeared in
    the Info-Mac archives. (The Info-Mac archives are available (by using
    FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on
    sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files and indices are in
    /info-mac/help.) They are in the /info-mac/sound directory:

    ... shirts?

    They've now spread to most any mall T-shirt store.

    ... coffee cups?

    A company called "Custom Screenprinting" makes them (from
    [e-mail]).

    ... calendars?

    "Advance Comics Catalog" reports that a 18 month calendar for
    1993 and 2nd half 1992 will be available in August from Andrews
    & McMeel. It'll cost $8.95 and will be in full color (from
    [e-mail])

    ... comic books?

    Marvel Comics is planning on making a monthly R&S comic book. It's
    in the planning stages and is at least 4 months (September or
    October '92) away. (from [e-mail]).

    ... "Log," "Log for Girls," "Powdered Toast," etc?

    "You sick little monkey!" "Don't you know cartoons will ruin your MIND?!"
            -- Ren

    ... other products for the drooling fanboy in each of us?

    Stay tuned.

14. Is there a fan club?

From [e-mail]:
Hahaha! It never occured to me, until I was looking at a just-finished copy
of X Magazine #10 ("Big Ren & Stimpy Blow-Out" issue, plug plug) to post
the address of the Almost-Official Ren and Stimpy Fan Club. So:

 Ren & Stimpy Fan Club
 2930 Jacob St.
 Hamtramck, MI 48212

15. What about the future of R&S?

We are now in the midst of Season 2.

The future of R&S is very murky at the moment. Rumors are flying of
John K's dismissal for submitting inappropriate material and being
behind schedule. The rights to the characters are owned by Nick, so
it's conceivable that R&S could go on under new management. All of
this is way up in the air as this goes to print.

From [e-mail] (David Price):
Here's some assorted details from the article "'Ren and Stimpy' stay off
the wall" by Matt Roush:

Ren has a cousin named "Svenhoek" [I assume that's really "Sven Hoek" -dp]
who is even stupider that Stimpy.  He loves playing the "Don't Whizz
on the Electric Fence" board game with Stimpy.  Ren doesn't heed the
game's advice and ends up in hell.

One episode has them reading fan mail in Hollywood, Yugoslavia.

16. Where can I find archived information on R&S?

Check ftp.coe.montana.edu. There should be copies of this FAQ, the
epsiode guide, and other stuff too.

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            Welcome to REC.ROLLER-COASTER!

This article is posted monthly to rec.roller-coaster and news.answers.
It answers some of rec.roller-coaster's frequently asked questions by
providing definitions of common terms used when discussing roller
coasters, a glossary of frequently-used acronyms, information on
organizations that further the hobby of roller-coaster riding/research,
and lists of the biggest/best/whateverest roller coasters around. This
posting was originally compiled by Dave Rounds ([e-mail]), then
maintained by Bill Buckley ([e-mail]), and has now fallen
into my hands ([e-mail]). Comments and questions are most
welcome via e-mail to Geoff.

[This is my first posting since I've taken it over from Buck, and I've
changed a few things.  If anyone spots any errors I may have made in all
my editing, I'd sure appreciate it if you'd let me know.  Thanks.]


Contents:
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I.   Newsgroup Charter -- rec.rollercoaster

II.  Common abbreviations

III. Definitions of Roller-Coaster terms

IV.  Roller Coaster/Amusement Park Organizations
     A. American Coaster Enthusiasts - ACE
     B. Mid-Atlantic Coaster Club - MACC
     C. Western New York Coaster Club - WNYCC
     D. First Drop - U.K. Coaster Club
     E. National Amusement Park Historical Association - NAPHA
     F. National Carousel Association - NCA

V.   General Information, Questions/Answers, Comments, etc.
     A. Books on Roller Coasters and Amusement Parks
     B. Magazines
     C. Roller Coaster Designer Info
    Designers of Wooden Coasters
    Designers of Steel Coasters
     D. Roller Coaster Record Holders
    Current Wooden Coaster Record Holders
    Current Steel Coaster Record Holders
     E. 1991 Classic Coaster Roster
     F. Inside Track ``Top Coasters'' Readers Survey
     G. List of Endangered Coasters in USA -- as of July 1992:

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I.   Newsgroup Charter -- rec.rollercoaster

rec.roller-coaster    Roller coasters and other amusement park rides.

rec.roller-coaster is an unmoderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 184:72 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 21 July 1991.

This newsgroup is for the discussion of any amusement park rides,
including but not limited to, roller coasters. Other topics include park
operating times/season schedules, admission prices, latest attractions,
future expansion efforts, etc.

II.  Common abbreviations

A lot of things discussed on rec.roller-coaster are in acronym form.  This
is because writing out ``Six Flags Over Texas'' several times in a posting
is tedious, at best; ``SFoT'' is much easier to write. Here are some
abbreviations you're likely to see in discussions on rec.roller-coaster.
Those items marked with an asterisk (*) are defined in the definition
section later below.

ACE - American Coaster Enthusiasts
BG--TDC - Busch Gardens, The Dark Continent (Now ``Busch Gardens Tampa'')
BG--TOC - Busch Gardens, The Old Country (Now ``Busch Gardens Williamsburg'')
CI - Coney Island
CP - Cedar Point
DL - Disneyland
*ERT - ``Exclusive Ride Time''
GASM - Great American Scream Machine
*GP - General Public
IAAPA - International Assoc. of Amusement Parks and Attractions
IT - Inside Track
KD - King's Dominion
KI - King's Island
MACC - Mid-Atlantic Coaster Club
NAPHA - National Amusement Park Historical Assoc.
*POP - Pay One Price
RC - Roller Coaster
*SBNO - Standing But Not Operating
SCBB - Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk
SFGAd - Six Flags Great Adventure
SFGAm - Six Flags Great America
SFAW - Six Flags Astroworld
SFMM - Six Flags Magic Mountain
SFoG - Six Flags over Georgia
SFoMA - Six Flags over Mid-America
SFoT - Six Flags over Texas
TC - Texas Cyclone
*TPM - ``Theme Park Mentality''
WDW - Walt Disney World
WNYCC - Western New York Coaster Club
WoF - Worlds of Fun

III. Definitions of Roller-Coaster terms

Below is a list of coaster terms used by enthusiasts when discussing
coasters, etc. This should help in following along with the discussions
and/or impressing friends and relatives with your knowledge of roller
coasters. Cross-references to other definitions in the list are enclosed
in angle brackets <like this>.

Airtime - Describes the sensation of coming out of your seat when riding a
    coaster. This effect is usually felt while riding in a front seat
    when cresting a hill or in a back seat when descending.

Banked Turn - A turn in which the tracks are tilted laterally to allow
    trains to turn at high speeds without undue discomfort to the riders.

Brakes - Every coasteraholic's nightmare! ...used to slow the train, they
    are located strategically in the circuit to control speeds in areas
    where excessive speed may be undesirable (note that ``undesirable'' and
    ``unsafe'' are not necessarily synonymous in this case, see also <Theme
    Park Mentality>). Brakes are usually located in the center of the
    trackwork, and not on the cars themselves. There are several
    different types of brakes used on a coaster, they are:

    Check Brake - A safety device that allows more than two trains to be
    on the same circuit, as part of the ``block'' safety system. These
    are usually brakes on a ride which don't necessarily slow down
    the train, but separate one block from another. Should a train
    try to enter another block when it is occupied, the safety system
    will <set-up> the ride.

    Scarf Brake - Used only to slow down a train, and are usually pre-
    set. The difference between a Scarf brake and a Trim Brake is
    that a Trim Brake can stop a train if needed, while a Scarf brake
    can only slow one down.

    Trim Brake - A brake used to slow the train running the track. This
    is used when the coaster exceeds recommended operating margins.
    It is also used when the train is causing too much wear on the
    track from excessive speed.

Brake Run - A flat stretch of track, usually two to three train lengths,
    at the station approach, where inbound trains are halted. Since it is
    very difficult to stop a train with wet brakes, this area is usually
    covered to keep the brakes dry during a rainstorm.

Boomerang - There are two different meanings for this term.

    1.    A type of coaster manufactured by Vekoma. It is a variation of
    the <shuttle loop> where you are hoisted up an incline, released
    and sent through the loading station into a semi-loop arrangement
    (as in definition 2 below) that inverts you twice, then into a
    <vertical loop>. After this the train heads up another incline
    and stops. The train is then pulled further up the second incline
    and released backwards, goes back through the loop and semi-loop
    and returns to the station.

    2.    An element used in a looping steel coaster that inverts you twice
    and also acts as a turnaround. You enter going up and to the left
    then the train twists upside down and follows through in an
    upright U-shape, you twist upside down and to the left again,
    exiting upright heading back the direction you came from.

Camel Back - A series of two or more hills, each slightly smaller than the
    preceding one.

Car - A unit or part of a coaster train, it usually carries between two
    and eight passengers.

Chain Dogs - A catch or pawl device beneath the train cars which engages
    into the chain lift.

Chain Lift - The rolling chain that carries the train to the crest of the
    lift hill.

Check Brake - A safety device that allows more than two trains to be on
    the same course. If there is a problem in one ``block'' of track, the
    check brake will not allow the following train(s) to continue the
    trackwork.